Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

I have a Rem 870 12ga

I have a Left handed Female

the 870 is a short barrel 6 in the tube defense model

it appears to be very awkward for the gal to use.....seems like the stock is to long and makes it hard for her to reach the slide.....safty is backwards for her also

any thoughts on aftermarket stocks...etc...to help the gal use this for home defense???? something we both can use??

we carry this gun on our UTV when we are out in the sticks for controlling snakes..vermin..poachers....etc...and it would be good if she could use it easyer

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

Get a youth model Mossberg 20 gauge that you both can use.

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

KNOXSTOCKS

Recoil reduceing by 50-75%

I like the Mossbergh saftey position much better. My Dad was left handed and always seemed to make the Remingtons hum. Practice.

E-A

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

Hogue makes a short, tactical, overmolded rubber 870 stock. Has a nice soft recoil pad and 12" length of pull, which is about the same as a youth model stock. Bought one for my wifes shotgun and it fits her fine (she is 5'8"). This stock should also help your friend reach the controls better as well.

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get a youth 870. smaller stock

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You could get her a nice little Glock 26, so she will have her own protection while you are off with the scattergun.

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Get your gal an autoloader, e.g. the Mossberg 930.

Under stressfire most people are very likely to shortstroke a pump.

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

for Carry protection she carrys both a C2 Tazer and a Ruger SP101 by choice and has a huge selection of other carry options

we have a gun carryer on our side by side atv .....so this shotgun is always on the buggie or very accessable in the barn/shed/ etc its the gun we go for is a critter pops up etc (it is our most used gun actually) we carry a box of birdshot and a box of buck shot on the buggie with it

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I dont anticipate this being used under a stress situation but as much as we use this shotgun i expect it will be 2nd nature on the stroke.......no way she is getting to carry around the benelli :wink:

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

Thx for all the replys i am going to see if i can find a youth stock for the gun and let her try that first ...see if she can work the safty right etc...if not i may go to a Mossburg 20ga to make it a little easyer and less recoil etc..

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SP101... Good choice.
There are "reduced recoil" 12 g. slug and buckshot loads available, both winchester and aguila package them for the law enforcement market, easily available, and probably just right for your lady.
try 'Express Police Supply' free shipping offer in effect.

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+1 on the Knoxx Stocks. Adjustable on the fly and the recoil reduction is superb and scales with the load.

-1 on the Youth model 870. It will be too short, I promise.

The safety as well as the chamber/pump release is the number one gripe about the 870.

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My Gal and I 100% appreciate each and every response and are carefully considering each for its seperate merits

Thank you!!

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

Mossbergs all have ambidextrous (tang mounted) safeties.
While the Remington is a quality firearm, I absolutely detest the location of the safety.

I'd try to find an older wood stocked Mossberg 500, then cut down the stock by 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch. Getting the length right make a shotgun a lot more comfortable to shoot. I'd personally rather have 1/2" to short than 1/2" too long.

If the budget allows, the Mossberg 930 (mentioned above) is very well regarded, and is very reliable for an autoloader.

The "low recoil" or "tactical" buck shot is the load you want. Recoil is less than a 20 gauge, but you still get 9 OO pellets.

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

I ended up spending the extra and ordering a knoxx stock....adjustable for both of us and recoil reducing if I decide to start shooting heavy loads

if that doesnt work i will probably look into a amnidexterous auto loader such as the 930

I will follow-up in a few wks with a report on how it worked for her

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Good choice on the Knoxx Stock --

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Congrats! You've made a good choice. This will make the firearm functional regardless of the shooters physical stature. WARNING!! Be careful with the placement of your "cheek weld" or you will have a very nice bruise where the rifle slides back into the rear part of the stock. Blackhalk/Knoxx makes a part called the PowerPak that attaches to the stock that holds five shells on the "off side" if you are right eye dominate, and it also raises your cheek up off of the stock itself and places in a safer area. Sometimes Knoxx ships the PowerPak with the stock and sometimes they ship the black forearm that matches the stock. I don't believe there is any rhyme or reason, they just have to put something in the extra space in the preformed plastic packaging. If you get the PowerPak with the stock you were lucky, if not you may want to consider purchasing it separately for the reason stated. When you get the stock installed, you will see what I'm taking about.

Here it is:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Pow...ce,212,167.htm


I went back and read again, you stated your wife is left handed, is she left eye dominate also? If so, you can still use the PowerPak, just don't attach the extra shell carrier. If you are going to add a scope or a raised sight, then this would help at a much lower price:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Axi...e,1397,167.htm

The advantage of the PowerPak over the Axiom is that the former is adjustable for height and the latter is not but you loose the extra shells back on the stock, you would have to get a sidesaddle or just go with seven rounds. Hope this helps.

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Speaking of the Knoxx forend that ships with the stock; is that thing worth installing (over the factory forend)? It appears that it would significantly decrease how far one had to reach to hold the forend and the knurling seems robust. However, my impression of the plastic was that it was rather chintzy and there was no manner of incorporating accessories onto it so I left it in the bottom of the closet.

Re: Female/Rem 870 need advice
 

SLV ......i think we are on the same page....i ordered the Powerpack unit with the Knoxx stock when i ordered (ordered from cabelas)

My thinking is similar to yours it would provide a cheek weld and extra shell holder

I also agree it looks like the slide handle replacement might provide additional grip area for the gal

also since the gal is a lefty i may or maynot be able to use it

if the whole system wont work for her and i.......i will have to look into another gun for that purpose

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Tazz, I also think you could consider having your friend MEASURED for a proper fitting stock. Any competent gunsmith can shorten the existing factory stock (hopefully wood) to the right length to fit her perfectly. It would save you money and fit her better (w/ good cheekweld) than the tactical stock.

BTW, I am 6 feet tall and I much prefer the 12 inch pull length for HD shotgun. More maneuverable in hallways, around corners, etc., works great with a ballistic vest and it just so happens to fit the wife as well...

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knoxx specops

http://www.cabelas.com/p-0012785224733a.shtml

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Notice a bit of recoil "slap" with that Knoxx stock. In fact some have complained about it and a tendency to short-stroke the pump...

Besides, there are other ways to reduce recoil with a shotgun: back-bore it, port it, reduced recoil tactical loads.

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Recoil reduction wasnt the reason for the stock....just a added percieved benifit

The initial request for information was how to fit my existing 870 to my left handed female requiring a short pull

the choice of the knoxx stock (been on order for a few days now) was based on its multi position stock allowing for fitting me...6-3 and a shorter gal ...her being lefthanded i will just have to see if she can run it ok



thx

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Big +1000 on the porting.

For porting of your shotgun, these folks are highly recommended http://www.magnaport.com/sgun.html

They are the originators and do it right. It isn't simply cutting ports in the barrel, Magna Port cuts the ports at an angle. They recently did the barrel on my pistol gripped 18.5" Model 12 and it is a noticeable difference. Much more tame.

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Not much steel to angle port on a shotgun

Shotgun wise my Skeet gun is a o/u ported browning.....it helps but it still will beat the heck out of your shoulder if you dont use other protection after 100rnds or so

But i am thinking of having my Ruger SP101 snub 357mag ported ...its hand punishing with every round of full 357mag.......very tame with 38P+s though